Orion BYZANTINE INFANTRY 12-15 centuries ORI 72827 1/72 scale constantinople painted soldiers figures miniatures

Today we talk about.... the Byzantine Infantry from Orion, a set that  most probably filled the most important army in history without 1/72 representation. Does it convincingly fill that gap, or it is a insult to our beloved Byzantines? Discover it in this review!

The Box

Following the unique Orion style, the artwork is a bit strange, just showing three men of a set with many different types of soldier.This is not a very good choice. It seems a strange 60s poster. Behind, we are shown the silhouettes of the soldiers, because it is impossible to see anything else with such dark pics of the soldiers. It is even wrong in listing the quantity, as instead of 42 figures, there are 44, so this box averages quite bad.

                        The Sprues

Painted examples;

SCULPTING - 6.0 out of 10

Something went wrong with this set. The sculpting is good as with nearly all Orion sets, with lively poses, and very good proportions, but the flash is present nearly everywhere, the spears are bad jokes, they have tempted me to substitute them all (and I am one of those non-perfectionists guys that would hardly even think of that possibility). The arrows of some archers are just a blob, and worst of all, two of the poses don't have a face. You will wonder then, what do they have then? My best bet is a sort of monstruos scarred flat face. (the italian hand-gunner and the man pointing down his spear).

So congratulations to the sculptor, and death to the productor/technician that made the moulds. I cannot give more than a 6, even if the sculptor's job was good, the product was quite spoiled. I think that you can be lucky and get a better set, with less flash and maybe the face of the spearmen, but from what I have seen, the spears and the hand-gunner face are lost forever.


HISTORICAL ACCURACY - 7 out of 10

Orion has just copied many plates of Osprey books, like other companies, but this time, without hardly reading anything of the book nor researching the most minimal reference outside those plates. The Albanians and Bulgars should be cavalry, but as depicted in the plates they were dismounted, so they have been done like this. There are other small problems of accuracy, but these could be passed over as not very important.

ARMY REPRESENTATION - 7.0

"The army representation score is the potential of the soldiers to be used for other purposes different to the one originally intended"
 The native Byzantine Infantry is hardly  usable for anything else (except probably the spearmen without a shield that could be of any Medieval Kingdom), and you would have to convert them slightly, which I hardly see the point  of,there being so many medieval troops.

But then here come the auxiliaries, which are nearly the 40 % of this set. There are Cumans, Almughavar and Venetians, which could have a lot of uses; the Almughavars as any barbarian or mountain tribe, the Venetian as any medieval hand-gunner, and the Cumans as any nomadic faction.

FUNNESS - 8.5

"I feel that many reviews are oblivious to this point - there are fantastic figures, which you can´t say anything against, but they are just too "correct", maybe too static, and just boring. So I feel that this is an important point when deciding if you buy this set"

The regular Byzantines are quite dull (except the officer, which is a fun addition, although he is wearing a court fine dress, and wouldn't be dressed like that in battle, we can consider he is defending a city, something which the Byzantines did quite a lot in these eras, and he hasn't had time to change his garments) but then there come the auxiliaries.

I consider it a great idea having done Albanians, a very interesting and obscure subject, and the first representation of the Almughavars, the famous catalan mercenaries of Roger de Lluria, which after his death at the hands of the Byzantines,  assaulted various cities in Greece and founded a small principate that lasted roughly 50 years.  Both Almogavars use a spear, but at least they should have been given a pose with a short knife, which had  made them famous, as they used one to stab the stomach of the enemy horse, and  then to finish off the knight once on the floor.

WARGAMING VALUE - 5.5

The ratios and proportions of men are strange and hardly good. First, it should have a proper military commander, not just a court dignitary for defence. They  completely lack  Byzantine light infantry, which I suppose you are intended to draw  from the other two sets that Orion produces of earlier Byzantines, but they would have changed a bit and it is not a 100 % fulfilling solution. All the native Byzantine infantry are heavily armoured and many of them wear a sash on their chest, which was used to show the rank, and so they are officers.

PRICE-VALUE RATIO - 8.0 

"The price value ratio of this soldiers will vary between any shops you go to, and the best I can do is judge by their average price on eBay"

Their average cost is 10 € shipped, which is good. I bought this set in a heartbeat, I would have probably bought just about any set that had "Byzantine" in it's title. At first I complained a bit, as it isn't a very representative set for the Byzantine Empire, but with the later releases of the two other earlier sets, it is a very nice addition. When they first appeared, I would have paid the double to have them, to soothe my Byzantine soldier' thirst.


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PAINTING AND GLUEING - 3.0

Some of the worst soldiers you can plan to paint, and yet, some of the few I've painted. They have big amounts of flash, and due to the elastic nature of the plastic, when you cut it it leaves a  very annoying roughness . I was literally HOURS trimming and cutting, and even then they weren't perfect to paint. 

And as mentioned earlier, some figures do not have a face, which is bad if you don't paint them, awful if try to do it. Once you paint the spears, you fully realise they are using short wooden branches to fight, instead of proper spears. 



OVERALL VALORATION - 7.5

Even with all the problems it has, this is a good set, with a certain "life", that other sets lack. However, some perfectionist collectors and exigent wargamers will have to discard some of the figures due to bad moulding.

I always asked myself why any manufacturer made a so important and well documented theme as the Byzantines (or Roman Empire, as I am already hearing you call it, historical geek).

At the moment of their release, they were a absolute must, but now with other Orion sets maybe you would want to skip this one and get the other two ones, that have better moulding (although spears are still sticks without point).

Conclusion; a bit flashy, but fun, worth if just for the mercenaries.


PAINTED EXAMPLES
"If you have painted these figures, I would love to include the pics in here, so everybody can compare and use this blog as reference when painting their soldiers. So if you want, send me a email with the pictures to tam_cob@hotmail.com and I´ll gladly include them"

First half of the figures.

Second half of the figures.

Rebellion of the auxiliaries!

Rebellion of the auxiliaries 2.

General view. Figures painted by myself.

Thanks for reading, and see you in the next battle!

Orion SLAVIC WARRIORS Slavs Figures Miniatures 1/72 Soldiers Army Slavonic

Today we talk about.... the Slavic Warriors from Orion, a very important faction from the Dark Ages, with plenty of uses. But is this a great set that will fill a huge hole in history, or rather 48 scruffy looking men that leaves a lot to desire? Discover it in this review!

The Box

Not bad, with the typical Orion "website" style, and the box art is not my favourite style, but it is correct, and I have seen worse. On the back, we see the painted figures, while normally Orion showed the unpainted figures, and this is a change for the better (probably following Zvezda's steps). In the middle we see a sort of sacred "totem", which looking at the box seems that it is included (I did think that myself when I bought them!) but no, you don't get it. This makes me think I have to get some clay and make it. (Edit; as pointed by Umpapa, the idol is the famous Zbruch Idol, more info here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbruch_Idol)

                        The Sprues

SCULPTING - 7.0 out of 10

They are nicely sculpted, as Orion nearly always does. The anatomical proportions are good too. The problem comes with the moulding, as some examples have lots of flash, which is very difficult to remove due to the nature of the plastic used, and because instead of a big blob of flash, it is small sparks of flash all round the figures, which makes it very tedious to remove. 

Some examples don't have any flash (mine is quite good), but you can see in the pics how it is quite present, and by my experience with other Orion sets, if you get a bad one it diminishes the overall quality of the set.

The spears are pretty bad, I have seen worse (like the Early Byzantine infantry), and at least you will have the temptation of replacing the spear in one of the poses.

Finally, the third man on the first pic, I think it is depicting a slinger (no, he isn't a Indian waving a freshly cut head of hair). He has a very unusual pose, and the sling doesn't seem a sling, nor does it seem that it contains a rock. You probably be better off cutting it off and replacing it by another weapon. This is strange as Orion has done previously other slingers finely. It seems the sculptor couldn't make his mind if make a slinger or a another axeman, and finally he got the pose of the axeman with something similar to a sling.

The poses in general are not too conventional, which is very welcome when you have a lot of soldier sets.



HISTORICAL ACCURACY - 10 out of 10

Orion has done it's homework. They represent perfectly the Slavic Warriors. I couldn't be happier with the representation, it is exactly as I expected them to be, and they fit all historical depictions.

ARMY REPRESENTATION - 8.0

"The army representation score is the potential of the soldiers to be used for other purposes different to the one originally intended"

If we extract some square shields, and change a bit the heads/hats, you can have a generic european/eastern european standard army from 400 a.c. until 1000 a.c.

With these figures you will have excellent figures for Germanic factions from the time of the Fall of the Roman Empire. You could transform them into early Baltic Tribes, use some as early Lithuanians, and of course as from all early Slav kingdoms. Some of the figures such as the bowmen could fit as peasants for Medieval Russian and Scandinavian kingdoms.

FUNNESS - 6.0

"I feel that many reviews are oblivious to this point - there are fantastic figures, which you can´t say anything against, but they are just too "correct", maybe too static, and just boring. So I feel that this is an important point when deciding if you buy this set"

They represent very well the subject, but they are completely lacking a leader. They don't have any fun addition, everything is a bit flat, you would need to make conversions and take figures from other sets to represent heroes, priests, leaders, etc.

At least the figures seems fierce, and the man with the big club is very nice.

The archer standing, seems, at least from my first impression of the artwork, to be a woman. She(?)is slimmer than the rest, and she has long hair, but looking again, and as Orion doesn't say anything, probably she isn't.

WARGAMING VALUE - 7.5

They have a good ratio of different men, skirmishers, archers, slingers, axemen, men that could be used as Berserkers... but it lacks unique figures, or simply a repeated example of leader, sub-leader, musician, etc.

PRICE-VALUE RATIO - 8.0 

"The price value ratio of this soldiers will vary between any shops you go to, and the best I can do is judge by their average price on eBay"


Their average cost is 10 € shipped, which is fine for a quite new set depicting a completely new subject. It is a fair price really.





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PAINTING AND GLUEING - 5.0

The plastic is good both to paint and to glue, but you will have to completely remove all flash, and you could think it's not a big deal, but believe me, when you paint you need a figure completely flashless, and to achieve that it will be complicated. 



OVERALL VALORATION - 8.8

This is a notable set, and depicting a subject so important, and never made as it is, for me it is absolutely a must. I bought them right when they appeared from eBay. Some collectors if they are not too much interested in this period will not consider them so important, but I believe that in this world of miniatures so centered in famous subjects, having completely new factions not made before and that are not easily represented with other existing sets, the choice of Orion is praiseworthy.


PAINTED EXAMPLES
"Your figures could appear here if you want! just send me a email with the pictures to tam_cob@hotmail.com and I´ll gladly include them"

Thanks to Miniaturas Aconcagua for the permission to use his image of these excellent painted soldiers;

Thanks for reading, and see you in the next battle!