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Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Caesar Miniatures - ARAB CAMEL RIDERS AND BEDOUIN - Arabs Bedouins Biblical Era

Another Caesar set to review, will this be another top notch set with excellent sculpting, or a boring and meaninglesss set?


The box;









Maybe one of the best Caesar box arts, at least they seem rather human. All the same, compare it to nearly any other manufacturer and you won't buy these for the box. The camels seem gigantic, and the perspective is not right, but it gives a sensation of heat, and depicts correctly what you get (which is not difficult, you'll see why later).




SCULPTING - 8.5 out of 10

I am not complaining about the quality of details, lifelikeness of the figures, nor anatomic proportions, which are nearly a 10. But there are a couple of weird poses with spears, that although they could win a prize on "never done before" this is probably because you would never be in that pose if you carried a spear.

Besides that, probably the camel is a bit too big, and seems very strange looking, ( a bit like an elongated hamster ) , if compared to camels from other manufacturers.



HISTORICAL ACCURACY - 10.0

This is a double-edged question; did Bedouins in this period wear turbans, that sort of skirt, and were their weapons  spears, sickles and bows? Indeed, for what we know (mainly some egyptian reliefs) that is a big yes. And the reliefs normally don't lie, so that is that.

But will everybody wear absolutely the same, including having nearly the same face and beard? Most probably not. God, they didn't even make someone without a turban, besides the camel riders. It is like having the same man in all the different poses, you could make a stop-motion movie with them!!

So yes, they are historically accurate. But in my opinion, after buying this set, you have just "Light and Medium Bedouin Infantry".

Caesar many times strives for total historical accuracy, and they don't want to enter in any sort of controversy, so if they find a relief that just shows a warrior, you'll get 42 figures of that warrior.

ARMY REPRESENTATION - 6.0

"The army representation score is the potential of the soldiers to be used for other purposes different to the one originally intended"


Besides representing Bedouins from Biblical times until nearly the advent of Mahomet, you could use some as light skirmishers in medieval arab armies, some with a bit of conversion for Indian and Muslim kingdoms. The good thing, is that you just have to add something with sculpting , so they could be a very good base to represent Arabs and men with turbans throughout the ages.
FUNNESS - 3.0

"I feel that many reviews are oblivious to this point - there are fantastic figures, which you can´t say anything against, but they are just too "correct", maybe too static, and just boring. So I feel that this is an important point when deciding if you buy this set"

I was quite disappointed after buying this set. It was an expensive one at that time (11,99 €, when most sets were 7,99 or less) and I expected something like the Trojan army, also from Caesar. Instead, even the supposed leader is exactly the same as the other men. I know that there isn't more information, but I think that with a bit of research and a bit of imagination you could have made them more interesting and appealing.



It seems that, for example, with sets like the Trojan Army, there was a very deep research, and the result was very good. Here, it seems they looked the Osprey where the camel riders appeared, saw a relief which showed the standard Bedouin, and here we go, we have a set. The funness in this set it is on the double-ridden camel.

WARGAMING VALUE - 6.5

This is a very good set for wargaming. You are given all the different sorts of troops, and in good ratio (albeit if a bit too many armoured men without spears maybe, this seems to represent an  elite Hittite army), so it scores high here. Some sort of standard bearer and king is the only thing it lacks to be a ten.

PRICE-VALUE RATIO - 7.5

"The price value ratio of these soldiers will vary between every shop you go to, and the best I can do is judge by their average price on eBay"

As with most Caesar Miniatures, you can find them for 8 GBP shipped from Hong Kong, which is better than what I paid at a retail store.
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PAINTING AND GLUEING - 8.5

As can be said for all Caesar models, the plastic is a sort of rubber that is rough and not slippery. Even if maybe a bit too dark , a lighter grey would have been better. They can be nicely glued. A bad thing is that they come many times with bent lances or bent bases,(which in theory  can be solved with hot water, although many return to their bad poses again.)

OVERALL VALORATION - 7.0

"A complementary set, just for the very enthusiastic of the period"

Disappointment, that is the feeling I had when I opened them 5-6 years ago, and that is the feeling I have now after doing this review. Okay, maybe I am wrong, and really all Bedouins even their chief and aristocracy, rich and poor, old and young, wore the same clothes and used the same weapons. But even if that was the case, without a absolutely historical confirmation, it would have been better to be bold and made something more special.

Why make Bedouins and not Babylonians, Hurrites, Gutis, Amorrites or Elamites? peoples that destroyed and forged great kingdoms? it escapes me. But I won't complain for getting an obscure tribe.


PAINTED EXAMPLES
"Your figures could appear here if you want! just send me a email with the pictures to tam_cob@hotmail.com and I´ll gladly include them"

Painted figures by  Miniaturas Aconcagua.










Thanks for reading, and see you in the next battle!

Friday, May 24, 2013

HEBREW WARRIORS - Caesar Miniatures, Biblical Era 1/72 Figures Miniatures

We proceed onto the third review, this time, a Caesar set, the polifacetic Hebrew Warriors


Here is the box artwork;





Why Caesar have chosen this semi-renacentist style for their boxes? beats me. I have been actually convinced not to buy some Caesar sets just by the awful box art. 

But in this case, they could have given me a blank box and I would have bought them anyway. The only positive point about the box art is that makes Caesar Miniatures recognizable. 

The box art shows many poses which you don't get, and gives you the sensation that you are buying a bunch of rebels with just spears and slings.


This is what there is inside the small plastic bag;





SCULPTING - 9.0 out of 10

Nobody beats Caesar on details -you should know that!- and although there is a couple of weird poses or anatomical movements, it gets a quite high valoration. The height is strictly 1/72, which is very appreciated in these times were nearly all miniatures are "growing". 

All the details are fantastically clear and sharp.  You don't have to guess what they are wearing or were the sleeve starts  or whatever, you can clearly see it.

The man advancing whilst  jumping, (the second last figure in the pic above) is holding a weapon, but none of the weapons given seem to give a good impression. 

One could say that the musculature in the archer seems exaggerated .They hadn´t put a foot in a gym in all their lives, so I am ok with that.


HISTORICAL ACCURACY - 6.0

Don´t get me wrong, there isn't anything like "that is a greek helmet"  " or a hebrew warrior never  carried thasort of shield", but the set tries to capture the first wars of the Hebrews till the revolts against the Romans. That is about 3000 years, and is tiny bit too much. Some are soldiers, other civilians or if you prefer rebels.

Each figure should be really analyzed. The leader depicts Samson (why him and not King Solomon or King David escapes me), which fought only with the jawbone of a donkey and killed thousands of Philistines (quite impressive, for a donkey jawbone). The female figure seem to represent Delilah, although you are given 4 of them. The figure with seashell also seems to represent a historical character, and you could hypothesize that the old man hurling a stone is indeed Moses, although in my opinion he is a rebel Hebrew throwing a tile at the Romans as in the Ben Hur film. 

Oddly, you are not given 2 unique figures as normally with Caesar, instead we are given two palace guards, the only regular troops we can spot here. 

Another ahistorical thing, is even if the figures seem to fit better with being rebel Hebrews, they are given bronze age weapons and not a single spear besides the two palace guards, so here you will need to have a good repertoir of weapons to make them a realistic Masada army.

Finally, the man with the mace seem a arab bedouin, which doesn´t seem to fit here.

If we leave out a couple of figures, this set will be better used as Hebrew Rebels during Vespasian or Titus' reign.


ARMY REPRESENTATION - 9.0

"The army representation score is the potential of the soldiers to be used for other purposes different to the one originally intended"


 This set gives you endless possibilities about making Middle East armies, at least half of them could be very useful for making Assyrian auxiliaries,or you could use them to make Phoenicians, Mitanni light infantry, Babylonian auxiliaries, and many, many more. Both archers could be used for hundreds of armies and civilizations.

FUNNESS - 8.0

"I feel that many reviews are oblivious to this point - there are fantastic figures, which you can´t say anything against, but they are just too "correct", maybe too static, and so just boring. So I feel that this is an important slant on deciding if you buy this set"

This set is strong on funness. The hero Samson, the man hurling a stone, the man with the seashell, makes if a bit strange set a quite fun one. 

Although one could say also that the theme could give even more fun figures, like a King Solomon, a Herodes, prophets, or many more.

WARGAMING VALUE - 7.0

You are given a leader, which is always nice, but for the rest the heterogenic nature of this set doesn't work very well with wargaming. I mean, a stone hurlers unit wouldn't be useful, although it will be excellent for a diorama.

You should be given more ordinary troops like the two palace guards, in different poses, etc.

PRICE-VALUE RATIO - 8.9

"The price value ratio of this soldiers will vary between every shop you go to, and the best I can do is judge by their average price on eBay"

I had to pay at that moment (some years ago) a whooping 12 € for them (at that moment, the most expensive 1/72 figures that were available), as usually in retail stores, they are very expensive. But in eBay, they are quite affordable, like 10 € or less, and having the quality they have, it is worth the money.


Search for Caesar Hebrew Warriors on eBay here

PAINTING AND GLUING - 8.5

As can be said for all Caesar, the plastic is a sort of rubber that is rough and not slippery.Even if still a bit too dark maybe, a lighter grey would have been better. They can be nicely glued. A bad thing is that they come many times with bent lances or bent bases,( which in theory  can be solved with hot water ), although many return to their bad poses again.

OVERALL VALORATION - 8.5

It is  overall a very nice set, and as with 99 % of Caesar sets, worth having. 


PAINTED EXAMPLES
"Your figures could appear here if you want! just send me a email with the pictures to tam_cob@hotmail.com and I´ll gladly include them"










 These figures have been painted by myself.



Thanks for reading, and see you in the next battle!